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Mediating the NASL/USSF dispute (abridged)

In case you haven’t managed to listen to all of my conversation with journalist/mediator Neil Morris, here’s a quick summary of how we proceeded with our mock mediation of the NASL v USSF lawsuit:

NASL proposal (again, this is fictional — just me playing the role)

  1. Give us three years guaranteed years of Division 2 designation as long as we maintain a minimum of eight teams.
      • Alternate option: Remove the division standards entirely.
  2. Freeze the Professional League Standards at the 2014 edition until 2026 with the exception of removing the time-zone standard
  3. Steve Malik removed as Pro Council representative, Rocco Commisso on Pro Council AND give him full access to SUM/USSF relationship

USSF counterproposal (again, fictional)

  1. Remove the distinction between Division 2 and Division 3. We’ll have Division 1 standards and professional standards, but any further distinction is up to the leagues.
  2. Freeze the PLS and remove the time-zone standard (actually, when we remove Division 2 from the PLS, then that’s a moot point), but we’ll only freeze until 2020.
  3. Changing the Board as the result of a lawsuit is a nonstarter. That’s not how boards work.
  4. Lose the NASL brand name, which we consider toxic given its history, and open merger talks with NISA.

Neil, speaking as a mediator and not a soccer journalist/analyst, sees a few problems with trying to force action upon those who are not party to the suit. USL could object to the removal of D2. Peter Wilt is under no obligation to talk with NASL. (In the real world, he probably would, but the point is that we can’t speak for him in this mediation.)

Another idea: Neil thinks granting the NASL a two-year grace period at Division 2 makes sense, and not just because it’s a compromise between the reported USSF proposal (one year) and NASL (three years).

If these ideas were exchanged in the real world, they might prod everyone toward a resolution of the current issues. Unfortunately, as we discuss, this isn’t likely to be the last USSF lawsuit no matter what they do. Impose an “open system”? OK then, MLS owners would surely haul you to court. Deny NASL the chance to become Division 1 in a few years if they manage to stick around? Yeah, we might see you in court again. Allow NASL to become a competing Division 1? Again, would MLS owners stand for that?

The only way these issues are going to get a long-term solution is if every stakeholder sits down and hammers out a solution that everyone can live with. And even then, you might stop someone new from coming in and suing down the road. We simply live in a litigious society that isn’t going to hand over total control of one sport to the federation, even if it were perfectly run to the satisfaction of 99% of Americans.

Listen to the podcast for all that — if you’re in a hurry, skip to the hour mark, where Neil and I assess the hourlong conversation we just had.

In thinking further about it, I’m leaning toward the following as a long-term plan that satisfies supporters (and those of us concerned about youth development) as well as owners and lawyers …

  1. Replace the Professional League Standards with Professional Club Standards. By all means, still keep some policies for leagues on refereeing, drug testing, an arbitration process for disputes, etc. But no more of this “75% of teams in a league must be owned by a gazillionaire” or “75% of teams must be in cities that had 1 million people before climate change forced everyone inland” stuff. The Club standards would focus on fields, stadium size, etc. Perhaps instead of a waiver application process, we could have a list of five items that must be met and five items of which a club must meet at least three. (Youth academy standards would absolutely be part of this.)
  2. Open the pyramid with some caveats. That’s the next post, and it will include some of the things people tweeted to me in the last 10 days. (No, I didn’t forget. Things have just been haywire.)
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RSD21: U.S. Soccer presidential candidate Eric Wynalda

Eric Wynalda has played in multiple World Cups, Germany, MLS, etc. He’s been a successful coach and commentator.

Yes, we talk about promotion/relegation. In fact, we did it first just so you single-issue types can listen and then bail out. If you want to hear about EVERY issue facing the next USSF president — well, we got to maybe half of them. There are lot of issues. In rough order, we talk about:

1. What’s different or similar between the concerns of the Twitterati and the concerns of the typical state or national association.

2. Whether people are nervous to speak up about the USSF power structure.

3. Women’s soccer: The new collective bargaining agreement and the NWSL.

4. Youth soccer: Has the federation done too little? Too much?

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U.S. Club Soccer forum: Caligiuri, Gans punch sacred cows — and who should drop out?

The first U.S. Soccer presidential forum, hosted by GotSoccer, was a bit like a League of Women Voters political gathering, designed to cover a broad range of topics.

The second forum was hosted by and for — and to some extent, about — US Club Soccer. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that. Their votes carry a lot of weight in this election. They certainly have the clout to bring in all these candidates for a discussion, and they provided a valuable public service by putting the audio online. (The photo in that link confirms what we hear around the 51-minute mark — someone opening a can of Coke.) And there’s certainly nothing wrong with a conversation focused on youth soccer, as much as some people want to hear about the national teams, promotion/relegation and so forth.

Five candidates were there. Carlos Cordeiro was not, and we’ll get to him. Paul Lapointe was not, and that’s a bit contentious. There are two sides to this story. Lapointe told his on Twitter. US Club told me by phone. Here’s how it breaks down:

Start with the press release: “Invited were announced candidates that had personally contacted US Club Soccer to initiate a discussion about U.S. Soccer and their respective candidacies.”

Lapointe insists that he did.

The response I received: All Lapointe sent us was a form letter.

I’ve seen what Lapointe sent. It appears to be a form letter addressed to “Dear USA member,” with bio and platform info attached. So how much should he be penalized for not personalizing that introduction?

US Club did issue a late invitation — a few hours before the forum — for Lapointe to join in. He could not do so on such short notice. And frankly, it may not have been worth his while. He’s not going to be getting a nomination letter from US Club, which had nominated someone but then rescinded that nomination under the late addition to the election procedures that allows an organization to rescind its nomination and yes, I’m getting a headache writing this sentence.

(Incidentally, I obtained a list of organizations that have nominated someone earlier this week. I was working toward publishing it today, and then a new list was posted. Multiple organizations did indeed rescind nominations before the deadline. Maybe later this week, I can get that list posted, but it doesn’t say who nominated whom.)

In any case, he has agreed to be on the RSD podcast in the very near future, so if you want to hear him talk about the issues, come back right here next week. As I said earlier today — he might not be the frontrunner, but he deserves to be heard.

In fact, let’s ask …

Beyond the dispute over times and emails is a larger, more pertinent question: What should an organization demand of USSF candidates? I mentioned on Twitter that US Club came across as if they were expecting candidates to “kiss their ring.” Maybe that’s too harsh. A primary purpose of this forum was to determine how US Club will cast its votes. If I’m advising US Club from a PR point of view, I tell them to invite everyone just to avoid coming across as arrogant — a look everyone wants to avoid when the primary issue in this election is whether U.S. Soccer itself is prone to hubris. But I might be more sensitive to such things than most.

So anyway, what happened at the forum?

If you’ve been following this election closely (or if you’ve listened to the RSD podcast interviews with Kyle Martino, Mike Winograd and Steve Gans — more interviews are on the way), you’ve heard most of this before. All of the candidates think U.S. Soccer has been too heavy-handed and too unresponsive to its members. They have their own ways of saying it — Winograd says USSF shouldn’t be dictating things from Chicago, to which Eric Wynalda amiably retorted that it’s actually from an apartment in New York (where incumbent Sunil Gulati lives).

And all the candidates agree coaching education is far too expensive. Martino pointed out the A and B licenses are only offered at a few specific sites, so coaches have to pay for travel as well.

This forum said little specifically about women’s soccer aside from Winograd’s point that using comparative revenues to justify unequal pay for the MNT and WNT is a misreading of U.S. Soccer’s mission, but we need to remember something here — when we’re talking about youth soccer, we are talking about women’s soccer. A lot of the issues — access, diversity, costs, etc. — are the same for boys and girls. Not all of them, of course, and Paul Caligiuri noted the absence of girls from the Development Academy for its first decade.

But is the DA a good thing? This is where Caligiuri stood out, pointing to the U.S. men’s record before and after the formation of the DA. Spoiler alert — it was better before the DA, back when the USA qualified for World Cups and Olympics. Meanwhile, the U.S. women have been doing OK without a DA. He wants to reorganize to bring the DA, ODP and id2 together. ODP is the old-school player ID-and-training system; id2 is US Club’s answer.

So that’s one hot take. Another came from Gans, who lamented the fact that many states (including his — Massachusetts — and mine — Virginia) now have two State Cups. That is, of course, a result of US Club Soccer starting its own. You have to wonder if the US Club members will take kindly to such a statement or whether it’ll be like my interview for a college scholarship, in which I told a room full of stock brokers I thought Selective Service was unconstitutional. (No, I didn’t get the scholarship.)

Meanwhile, Cordeiro’s absence is being played off as no big deal. I’m not sure that’s right. We’ve had two forums, and he has missed both of them. That might be understandable for Gans and Winograd, who have jobs and shouldn’t be expected to pop up at a random site, especially on a weekday. But Cordeiro’s retired. And if he doesn’t have time for these forums, perhaps he doesn’t have time to be president. (He is, like every other candidate, invited to appear on the podcast.)

And there’s one more candidate who should announce, immediately, that he is not running.

He’s Sunil Gulati.

It’s not about Gulati’s record at this point or whether he’s the right man to continue to serve at this pivotal time. He had every right to make the case.

But now it’s simply too late. Delaying his announcement has left many organizations in limbo as they decide what to do with this newfound power to nominate a candidate. (Previous elections took nominations from the floor of the meeting. Everything about this election is new.)

And while he has been absent, the call for change has gained momentum. It’s a polite call for change, with many kind words about what Gulati has done to help turn around U.S. Soccer from a small federation in red ink to a giant organization awash in sponsorships and infrastructure investments. But it’s loud and clear. The time to stop it has long since passed.

So which candidate will lead that change? I don’t know. It’s going to take a lot more discussion to discern the right choice. Then we’ll see if the voters agree.

 

 

 

 

 

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RSD20: Mediating the NASL/USSF suit with Neil Morris

Neil Morris covers his local teams — North Carolina FC and the North Carolina Courage — for WRAL. His work includes a terrific podcast, the Inverted Triangle. In his day job, he’s an attorney and mediator.

So why not combine his areas of expertise and try to mediate the NASL/USSF lawsuit? We gave it a whirl, with Neil playing the role of mediator and your host flipping between the roles of NASL and USSF advocates.

The conversation starts around the 8:45 mark. We quickly explain what’s going on in the real world with the lawsuit, and then Neil explains the mediation process.

I present a hypothetical NASL offer, prompted by Neil’s helpful questions and prodding, around the 25-minute mark. (Highlights: Cosmos owner on the USSF Board, drop divisional sanctioning OR give us D2 for a few years.) I give a hypothetical USSF counter at 43:45. We spend the last half-hour assessing our progress — some promising ideas, but some roadblocks that even the most reasonable people may have difficulty eliminating. Uh oh.

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Whose nomination is it, anyway?

As with many aspects of the U.S. Soccer presidential election, the nomination process is clearly spelled out, except where it’s not.

The Election Procedures say this:

ussf-noms

(Note that this does NOT include the deadline to rescind a nomination, which is Nov. 27. That’s today. Or yesterday, depending on when you read this.)

We’re looking at 1.2 here to see who can nominate a candidate. The “Athlete members of the Board of Directors” category is simple: It’s Chris Ahrens, Carlos Bocanegra and Angela Hucles.

Who’s an Organization Member? Let’s hit the bylaws …

org-member

So Life Members and Individual Sustaining Members aren’t named as potential nominators. Also scratch (C) Indoor Professional League — the Major Arena Soccer League isn’t affiliated.

Let’s check the rest against the definitions in the bylaws and then see if we can figure out who qualifies under which category. All in alphabetical order.

This is where I’m going to ask for some crowd-sourcing help. A lot of the sites are unclear. The USSF site mentions “Affiliates” without a precise breakdown. 

(A) Associate: “an organization formed to advance a particular aspect of soccer, but not responsible for recruiting, training, fielding and funding of soccer players.”

  • United Soccer Coaches? (Formerly NSCAA)
  • U.S. Soccer Foundation?

(B) Disabled Service Organization: “an organization formed with the primary goal of advancing and improving soccer for disabled individuals.” I’m completely guessing that the following affiliates are in this category:

  • American Amputee Soccer Association
  • U.S. Power Soccer
  • U.S. Deaf Soccer

(D) National Affiliate: “an amateur sports organization that conducts soccer programs in which players compete in at least 26 states of the United States.”

  • SAY Soccer (100,000 youth players) is on the Youth Council.

(E) National Association: Basically, a BIG National Affiliate (1,000 players in each of at least 26 states, 200,000 players total) and member of the Youth or Adult Council.

  • U.S. Adult Soccer
  • U.S. Youth Soccer (3 million players)
  • U.S. Club Soccer (verified National Association)
  • AYSO (500,000 players)

(F) Other Affiliate. Amateur, competes in at least four states but not 26 (because that would be “National”) and not a member of the Youth or Adult Council.

  • U.S. Armed Forces Sports Council?
  • U.S. Futsal? (There was some back-and-forth in the Board minutes over the course of a couple of years about this.)
  • U.S. Specialty Sports Association?

(G) Professional League. That one’s easy. Four.

  • MLS
  • NASL
  • NWSL
  • USL

(H) State Association: “the administrative body within a territory determined by the National Council to carry out the Federation’s programs for amateur youth or amateur adult players, or both.” There are at least 95 of these. I’m hedging because I didn’t find sites for a lot of the adult associations.

Here’s a quick spreadsheet attempt:
WisconsinState – Youthhttp://www.wiyouthsoccer.com/

ORG/STATE ORG TYPE SITE
U.S. Soccer Foundation Associate? http://www.ussoccerfoundation.org/
United Soccer Coaches Associate? https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/
American Amputee SA Disabled Service http://www.ampsoccer.org/
U.S. Deaf Soccer Disabled Service http://www.usdeafsoccer.com/
U.S. Power Soccer Disabled Service http://www.powersoccerusa.net/
SAY National Affiliate http://www.saysoccer.org/
AYSO National Association http://www.ayso.org/
US Club Soccer National Association http://www.usclubsoccer.org/
US Youth Soccer National Association http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/
USASA National Association http://www.usasa.com/
U.S. Futsal Other Affiliate? http://www.futsal.com/index.php/home
U.S. Specialty Sports Other Affiliate? http://usssasoccer.com/
US Armed Forces SC Other Affiliate? http://armedforcessports.com/
MLS Pro https://www.mlssoccer.com/
NASL Pro http://www.nasl.com/
NWSL Pro http://www.nwslsoccer.com/
USL Pro http://www.uslsoccer.com/
Alaska State – Adult http://www.aasa-alaska.com/
Arizona State – Adult Site?
California – North State – Adult http://www.csan.net/
Colorado State – Adult http://www.wearecoloradosoccer.com/
Connecticut State – Adult http://www.cssasoccer.com/
Delaware State – Adult Site?
Florida State – Adult http://www.floridastatesoccer.com/
Hawaii State – Adult http://www.hawaiisoccerassociation.com/
Idaho State – Adult http://www.idahostatesoccer.com/
Illinois State – Adult http://www.illinoissoccer.org/
Kansas State – Adult http://www.kansassoccer.com/
Kentucky State – Adult Site?
Maine State – Adult Not sure this one exists – joint association?
Maryland State – Adult http://marylandsoccer.com/
Massachusetts State – Adult http://www.mass-soccer.org/
Michigan State – Adult http://www.misoccer.net/
Minnesota State – Adult http://www.mnsoccer.org/
Mississippi State – Adult http://www.mississippisoccer.org/
Missouri State – Adult Site?
Montana State – Adult Site?
Nebraska State – Adult http://www.nebraskastatesoccer.org/
Nevada State – Adult Site?
New Jersey State – Adult http://www.soccernjsa.com/
New Mexico State – Adult http://www.nmssa.com/
New York – East State – Adult http://www.enyssa.com/
New York – West State – Adult http://www.wnysasoccer.org/
North Carolina State – Adult http://www.ncasasoccer.org/
Ohio – North State – Adult Site?
Ohio – South State – Adult http://www.soasa.com/
Oregon State – Adult http://www.oregonadultsoccer.com/
Pennsylvania – East State – Adult http://www.eastpasa.wix.com/eastpasa
Rhode Island State – Adult http://www.risa.org/
South Carolina State – Adult http://www.scamateursoccer.org/
South Dakota State – Adult http://www.sdadultsoccer.com/
Tennessee State – Adult http://www.tnsoccer.org/
Texas – South State – Adult http://www.tssas.com/
Utah State – Adult http://www.utahsoccer.org/
Vermont State – Adult http://www.vermontamateursoccer.com/vssa
Virginia (DC) State – Adult http://www.mdcvsasoccer.org/
Washington State – Adult http://www.wssa.org/
Wisconsin State – Adult http://www.wisoccerleagues.com/
Wyoming State – Adult Site?
Alabama (combined) State – Joint http://www.alsoccer.org/
Arkansas (combined) State – Joint http://www.arkansassoccer.org/?q=leagues/adult
Cal – South (combined) State – Joint http://www.calsouth.com/
Georgia (combined) State – Joint http://www.georgiasoccer.org/
Indiana (combined) State – Joint http://www.soccerindiana.org/
Iowa (combined) State – Joint http://www.iowasoccer.org/
Louisiana (combined) State – Joint http://www.playlouisianasoccer.org/
New Hamp (combined) State – Joint http://www.soccernh.org/
North Dakota (combined) State – Joint http://www.northdakotasoccer.org/
Oklahoma (combined) State – Joint http://www.oksoccer.com/
Penn – West (combined) State – Joint http://www.pawest-soccer.org/
Texas – North (combined) State – Joint http://www.ntxsoccer.org/
West Virginia (combined) State – Joint http://www.wvsoccer.net/
Alaska State – Youth http://www.alaskayouthsoccer.org/home.php
Arizona State – Youth http://www.azyouthsoccer.org/default.aspx
California – North State – Youth http://www.calnorth.org/
Colorado State – Youth http://www.coloradosoccer.org/
Connecticut State – Youth http://www.cjsa.org/
Delaware State – Youth http://www.dysa.org/
Florida State – Youth http://www.fysa.com/
Hawaii State – Youth http://www.hawaiisoccer.com/
Idaho State – Youth http://www.idahoyouthsoccer.org/default.aspx
Illinois State – Youth http://illinoisyouthsoccer.org/
Kansas State – Youth http://www.kansasyouthsoccer.org/
Kentucky State – Youth http://www.kysoccer.net/
Maine State – Youth http://www.soccermaine.com/
Maryland State – Youth http://www.msysa.org/
Massachusetts State – Youth http://www.mayouthsoccer.org/
Michigan State – Youth http://www.michiganyouthsoccer.org/
Minnesota State – Youth http://www.mnyouthsoccer.org/
Mississippi State – Youth http://www.mississippisoccer.org/
Missouri State – Youth http://www.moyouthsoccer.org/
Montana State – Youth http://www.montanayouthsoccer.com/
Nebraska State – Youth http://www.nebraskastatesoccer.org/
Nevada State – Youth http://www.nevadayouthsoccer.org/
New Jersey State – Youth http://www.njyouthsoccer.com/
New Mexico State – Youth http://www.nmysa.net/
New York – East State – Youth http://www.enysoccer.com/
New York – West State – Youth http://www.nyswysa.org/
North Carolina State – Youth http://www.ncsoccer.org/
Ohio – North State – Youth http://www.ohionorthsoccer.org/
Ohio – South State – Youth http://www.osysa.com/
Oregon State – Youth http://www.oregonyouthsoccer.org/index.html
Pennsylvania – East State – Youth http://www.epysa.org/
Rhode Island State – Youth http://www.soccer-ri.com/
South Carolina State – Youth http://www.scysa.org/
South Dakota State – Youth http://www.southdakotasoccer.com/
Tennessee State – Youth http://www.tnsoccer.org/
Texas – South State – Youth http://www.stxsoccer.org/
Utah State – Youth http://www.utahyouthsoccer.net/default.aspx
Vermont State – Youth http://www.vermontsoccer.org/
Virginia (DC) State – Youth http://www.vysa.com/
Washington State – Youth http://www.washingtonyouthsoccer.org/
Wyoming State – Youth http://www.wyomingsoccer.com/

Again — if I’ve misclassified any organization, please speak now. If any of these organizations have no nominating power, please let me know. If you know something I don’t, I need to be in touch with you. It’s my job. Sort of.

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Should men’s and women’s national teams start playing “B” games?

Two bits of news, ICYMI:

  • CONCACAF will play along with the global effort to have a “Nations League,” a promotion/relegation competition that basically replaces friendly games.
  • The U.S. men played in Portugal with a bunch of young players, earning a 1-1 draw and stirring up a bit of optimism for the future.

Take the second part first because it applies to a long debate in women’s soccer. The U.S. women have long been accused of having a stale player pool, giving few opportunities for players to gain experience. (This topic was one of my first pieces for The Guardian.)

Things have changed a little bit. The new collective bargaining agreement isn’t public, but it’s apparent that some of the restrictions previous coaches faced in calling in new players have been eased.

Still, it’s hard to imagine a U.S. women’s team like the men’s team we saw in Portugal. Here’s a rough attempt to come up with such a roster. You’ll see the men’s players first, with their ages, clubs and number of caps (thank you, Soccer America), and then I’ll try to come up with their female analogues. Some of them are inexact (I really had to mix up specific midfield roles).

GK: Ethan Horvath (22, Club Brugge/BEL, 2). Jane Campbell (22, Houston, 2)

GK: Bill Hamid (26, FC Midtjylland/DEN, 3). Yes, two goalkeepers in one game. Hamid has just moved from D.C. United, where he came up through the academy.  Adrianna Franch (27, Portland, 0)

RB: DeAndre Yedlin (24, Newcastle United/ENG, 49). This is a tough one. Yedlin is well beyond the “prospect” stage, having already played in a World Cup. He’s not on the way out, like (don’t shoot the messenger) Ali Krieger. Let’s say Kelley O’Hara (29, Sky Blue, 104)

CB: Matt Miazga (22, Vitesse/NED, 4). Emily Sonnett (23, Portland, 12)

CB: John Brooks (24, Wolfsburg/GER, 33). Like Yedlin, he has already played in a World Cup, so this is a tough one. Since we went with an experienced right back, let’s take a less experienced center back who’s closer to Brooks’ age: Abby Dahlkemper (24, N.C. Courage, 13)

CB: Cameron Carter-Vickers (19, Sheffield United/ENG, 1). Tierna Davidson (19, Stanford, 0)

LB: Eric Lichaj (29, Nottingham Forest/ENG, 14). Jaelene Hinkle (24, N.C. Courage, 8)

LB: Jorge Villafana (28, Santos Laguna/MEX, 15). Lauren Barnes (28, Seattle, 0)

RM: Tyler Adams (18, New York Red Bulls, 1). Jaelin Howell (17, Real Colorado, 0)

DM: Danny Williams (28, Huddersfield Town/ENG, 23). Allie Long (30, Portland, 33)

LM: Kellyn Acosta (22, FC Dallas, 17). Lindsey Horan (23, Portland, 43)

LM: Lynden Gooch (21, Sunderland/ENG, 2). Christina Gibbons (22, Kansas … um … Utah?, 0)

AM: Weston McKennie (19, Schalke/GER, 1). Brianna Pinto (17, CASL Elite, 0)

AM: Alejandro Bedoya (30, Philadelphia, 66). Kristie Mewis (26, Houston, 15)

F: Juan Agudelo (24, New England, 27). Crystal Dunn (25, Chelsea/ENG, 57)

F: C.J. Sapong (28, Philadelphia, 3). Jessica McDonald (29, N.C. Courage, 1)

F: Dom Dwyer (27, Orlando, 4). Kealia Ohai (25, Houston, 3)

So that’s a WNT without Naeher, Sauerbrunn, Ertz, Lloyd, Morgan, Rapinoe, Heath, Leroux or Press. (Also, oddly, without Mallory Pugh or Andi Sullivan — I simply didn’t find the proper place for them, though I would fully expect to see them in a “youth movement” lineup.)

Would we like to see that? The U.S. women don’t play many friendlies like that. In fact, none.

But pretty soon, the U.S. men also might not have that chance. The Nations League may wipe out available slots for friendlies. Every game may count for something, so experiment at your own risk.

Incidentally, someone asked about a Nations League for women. Can you imagine the U.S. women going to play on a bumpy, overgrown field in Trinidad or the artificial turf in Saprissa? Those are the stadiums they roll out for men’s World Cup qualifiers — can you imagine where they might put a women’s Nations League game?

So how will the national teams develop players?

Perhaps it’s time to bring back an old idea — the national “B” team. The USA-Portugal game might be a great example, and if you can’t do it in a friendly ….